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Несколько вопросов про Эльдар(Крафтворлдовских)

Честно был очень удивлён что прошло так много времени и никто не слил инфы с 11 ИА 2 редакции сюда... Лулзов много, у корсаров батлфокус и много новой даки и тишина... Так что я слоупочно компенсирую это.

Perils of the Warp Chart

Corsairs have their own unique Perils of the Warp chart. In addition to the Void Dreamer, Barons and Princes can be Psykers.

D6
1- Devoured. No Ld check. The Psyker is claimed by She Who Thirsts. Gains Demon, Hatred (Khorne), Rending, and may run +3 inches. Control switches to your opponent. If the psyker is part of a unit they’re locked in combat.

2-3 Soul-Wracked. Slaanesh gives them a back massage is basically what the fluff says. The unit (not just the model) are pinned and your opponent gets to change the target of the psychic power being cast.

4-5 Warp Terrors. Demons swirl about the veil. Unit and all Corsair units within 6″ must make a morale check on 3D6 take the two highest or fall back.

6 The Eye of She Who Thirsts. The Psyker gets the attention of Slaanesh. For the rest of the game perils happen for the psyker on any doubles.

Psychic Powers

– Psychic power #5: Warp Tunnel – WC2 – Pick a friendly unit within 6″. Make a no-scatter Deep Strike anywhere on the table. The target may shoot and assault as normal. For every 6″ moved this way roll a D6, for every 1 rolled take a wound (saves allowed).

– as a whole their psychic powers are pretty average though. The one that puts enemies into ongoing reserve is powerful but it’s WC3. Not witchfire though so that’s good.

– Primaris power under Aethermancy… not so good IMO.

Path-Ward, WC2 (why?) – Blessing, only works on Corsair faction units. The unit automatically gets a ‘6’ on difficult terrain rolls, charge distances, thrust moves, hit and run moves, reckless abandon special rules. If it was a D3, it’s a 3.

I guess that’s a very long, predictable charge range though.

Army Special Rules & Info

By the way, regular troop Corsairs (now called Reaver Bands), got defensive grenades.
Not sure about the vampire hunter. Firestorm yes. Lynx is still there, holofields unchanged. Sonic lance unchanged, It has a whole new gun though:

Corsairs get these two rules:
– Dancing on the Blade’s Edge: Corsairs are piratey and stuff and not the most disciplined. They come with two Ld Values, ie 8/5. You use the lower value when trying to regroup.

– Reckless Abandon: If within 12″ of an enemy, the unit can “battle focus” only after shooting. But don’t roll D6, it’s a flat 6″. Jetpack units get 6+D6″.

Princes can take relics from either book as well as the Harlequin book. Hello Mask of Secrets.
Dissonance cannon: 24″ S5, AP4, Heavy 1, pinning. For each additional model in the unit that hits, add +1S and -1AP. So if three hit that’s S7 AP2 on all of them. Not bad.

grenades – Tanglefield
S2, AP-, blast. Any unit hit by it takes a strength test, if failed reduce initiative and WS in half until next turn.

So the cloud dancer felarch comes with a brace of pistols, either or both of which can be exchanged for a list of named items…
… but the default loadout just says ‘brace of pistols’.
Meaning what – brace of shuriken pistols? Fusion pistols? Laspistols?
Brace of Pistols is wargear that effectively gives access to 2 shuriken pistols and 2 splinter pistols.

– Yes the Corsair Prince and Baron can both take a Cloud Runner jetbike.

– The Baron is a 30 point HQ base, super cheap. He’s not an IC, can take a lot of upgrades such as a shadowfield, pay 15 pts to become a lv1 psyker. I think he’ll see a lot of action.

– The Prince dropped 25 pts. Anything with 12″ uses his Ld.

– Yes Corsairs have a pistol fetish. They have access to 4 pistols (but can of course only fire 2). For one, this means that they all have 2 CCW.

– There are scout Corsairs called Ghostwalkers. They get stealth, scout, infiltrate, plasma and defensive grenades, and a lasblaster. For one point per model they can get longrifles. They can also get flamers, fusion guns, shredders, and blasters (1 per 5). And they can get haywire grenades.

– Corsair jetpacks grant 4+ armor

CW Eldar, Dark Eldar, and Harlequins are battle brothers. Tau, Imperials are Desperate allies, never may be in a list with Chaos, Nids, Crons. Nobody is allies of Convenience for Corsairs (except different parts of their own detachment lol)hey gained open-topped… But get 4++ rerollable vs shooting whenever they jumped or deep struck on the previous turn.

– For +10 points Corsair Reavers (“basic” Corsairs) can all upgrade to Void Hardened armor. This gives them 3+ armor and re-rolls for dangerous terrain and difficult terrain, but they lose Fleet.

– Balelight: Pistol 3D3, rending, blind, one use, 8″, S3, AP6.

– Elite Slot: Malevolent Band. These corsairs are half-insane because of Slaanesh gnawing at their souls and therefore charge into battle with berzerker-like rage.

: Any Corsairs within 6″ of them get -1Ld
: They’re 2W models with FnP
: Fear, fearless, fleet, furious charge, rage
: 5 points gets the whole unit Jetpacks or Heavy mesh (4+ armor). No-brainer.
: Can get melta bombs, venom blades, power swords (1 per 5)
: Comes with brace of pistols and a CCW

In other news, the Corsair Prince can be configured as a “drug lord” and have a better combat drug chart than dark eldar – and it works for his whole detachment. Roll a 6 on the drug chart and your prince goes full El Chapo and gets to roll for two drugs.
Dark Eldar need a new codex.

Looks like no new model support other than the new WK and the jetbikes and those look like modded kits. FW told me though that they plan on releasing more in the future but couldn’t say what or when.

Corsair Formations & Detachments

Anyway Corsairs can take a CAD. Or they can organize into a…
Corsair Fleet Raiding Company
Mandatory stuff:
– Command Crew (1-2 HQ, 0-1 Elite, 0-1 LoW)
– Primary Coterie (1 HQ, 1-3 Troops, 0-2 Elites, 0-2 Fast, 1 Heavy)

Optional 0-3 Coteries (same as primary)

Features:
– Obsec Troops
– Coterie Specializations. Each Coterie can select one of the following rules and you can’t double up on any rule pick. (Command Crew doesnt get one):

Titan Breakers – Preferred enemy tank and walker
Head Takers – Rerolls 1 to wound in CC
Sky Burners – Deep strikes scatter D6 and reroll failed reserve rolls (optional)
Vault Breechers – Gain Dissonance breech
Night Hunters – Gain Night Vision and Preferred Enemy (stuff at night)
Hate Bringers – Pick an enemy unit on turn 1. The Coterie’s infantry and jetbikes get Hatred (those guys) for the whole game and if you kill those guys gain a VP. Any part of your army can kill it for the VP doesn’t have to be the coterie with this ability or even Corsairs.

Drawback!!! Internal Politics: Your Coteries count each other as Allies of Convenience. This is potentially a big deal.

The book also has more choices for the Eldar Warhost formation in the CW Codex. Lots more actually. Here’s one.

Lord of the Undying Host (Command Choice)
1 Wraithseer
1-3 units of Wraithblades

Special Rules:
– Wisdom Beyond the Veil: roll 2D6 for warlord trait, pick the one you like
– Bound to Serve: Wraithblades and Wraithseer re-roll to-hit rolls of ‘1’ in the first round of CC

Warhost (decurion type detachment)

There’s an alternate to the Eldar Warhost in here, sort of a modified version where instead of getting the buffed battle focus thing, you pick a trait.

Warhosts of the Pale Courts (The Pale Courts are the minor craftworlds), uses normal auxiliary and command choices
– Pale Courts Battlehost: Farseer, 3 Guardian Defender units, 0-1 Warlock councils
– Pick one of 11 traits.

> Crossroads of Eternity: The Battlehost may include a Harlequin Troupe, counts as CE Eldar faction

> Children of Khaine: The 3 units of Guardians must be Storm Guardians who are S4 when they roll a ‘6’ to hit

> Disciples of Vaul: The Battlehost adds 1-3 Vaul’s Wrath batteries and the Guardians may take 1 support weapon per 5 models

> Graveyard of Dreams: The Battlehost must take 3 Wraithblade units, the Guardians become 0-3. The wraithblades get Crusader.

> Tomb-Ship of Fallen Heroes: The Battlehost uses a Spiritseer or Wraithseer instead of the Farseer, roll 2D6 take the best for WL traits. Must also take a Wraithlord.

> Aspect-Lord Shrine: Guardians become 0-3, Battlehost must include three Aspect Warrior units from a single aspect.

> Fortress of Discipline – Battlehost adds 1-3 War Walkers or 1 unit of Wasps. They get pinning against anything Guardians targeted that turn.

> Swift to Anger – Battlehost must inclide 1-3 Vyper units or 1 Hornet unit. They get outflank and re-roll reserve rolls.

> Halls of Martial Splendor – Take an Autarch instead of the Farseer in the Battlehost. He re-rolls misses and wounds in a challenge.

The strong stand alone – The Battlehost adds a single squadron of Warp Hunters, Night Spinners, or Fire Prisms. Your army can’t contain any other detachments except more Pale Courts Warhosts.

New Vehicle Details
– The Phoenix Bomber looks unchanged other than dropping 20 points.

As well as the Wraithknight (there’s a new one) and the new Revenant.

Unfortunately Prism blasters (focused and dispersed), as well as Ghostlight are the same as they are on the FAQ downloadable from FW’s website, which is to say, lacking. I don’t have info on the Spear of Twlight, Irillyth, or Spectres themselves though, sorry. I have the corsair stuff mostly.

Is Firestorm in the book?
Yes. Its gun got rending and ignores cover vs skimmers and flyers.

– Warp Hunter, 185 points, can be squadroned. 36″ Str: D minus 1 AP2 with small blast barrage D3+1 shots. Also has a template firing mode.

– Kinetic Fields grants a 5++ save to vehicles, increasing to 4++ re-rollable if the vehicle deep strikes or moves flat out. Wasps get it when jumping. Doesnt work in melee but this is damn good.

The Phantoms guns got a boost

Eldar Lynx:
12/12/11, 5 HP
Heavy Support NOT a superheavy
Costs 5 more than a Land Raider
Flyer with skimmer mode
Can Deep Strike
Can’t jink when flying (it’s too clumsy), only snap firing when flying
Comes with a shuriken cannon, can turn it into a BL/SL/SC for +5 pts

Lynx Pulsar:
Saturation: 48″ Str, AP2, Ordinance 1, Large Blast
Salvo: 48″ Str, AP2, Ordinance 3, Twin-Linked

it’s 60 pts cheaper and got +1 armor f/s

The Lynx Pulsar has an Ordinance 3, S: D, AP2, Twin-linked 48″ firing mode now, as well as the Large blast D which also gets ordinance

Sonic lance is unchanged

Revenant Titan
Gets a heavy 4 S8 AP3 skyfire, interceptor, sunder ”Cloudstrike” missile system. And it’s only hit on 6’s in close combat now (GMCs and superheavy walkers hit it on a 5+). Titan holofields are unchanged. Weapons are unchanged. 

– The Nightwing is only 25 points more than a naked Farseer. It has stealth and Agile.

– you can arm a Wasp with both a dark lance and a bright lance.

– Wasps get D6+1 hammers of wrath when they assault using their jump jets. They gained open-topped… But get 4++ rerollable vs shooting whenever they jumped or deep struck on the previous turn.

A lot of folks seem to hate shooting D weapons these days, so if these rumors are true and the Pulsar is changing THAT much it may not be too popular with quite a few people. Also only being able to hit the Revenant on 6’s in hand to hand really cranks up the power level notch on that thing a whole lot.

I can’t imagine the Phantom that’s like 3 times as big as the Revenent not getting the same rules as far as that goes. The titan holofield rules staying the same won’t hurt sales either for these big boys.

О сатанизме, Богах Хаоса и Человеке [Личные рассуждение] / Of Satanism, Dark Gods and the Man [Personal thoughts]

О сатанизме, Богах Хаоса и Человеке [Личные рассуждение]

Сатанизм не поощряет твое личное рабство по отношению к кому-то. Сама концепция крайне любопытная, так как являться полностью противоречащей христианству (которое ранее являлось основным гос. институтом). И я напоминаю, сатанизм до сих пор находится под запретом, обрастает мифами и его всячески порицают, так как это одно из направлений, которое заставляет «думать своей головой» и объединятся ради великой цели, которая рушит текущие основы.

Смысл сатанизма не в отдаче или служении, а в своем собственном саморазвитии и величие Человеческого рода, в этом плане сатанизм очень роднится к классической немецкой философии. Та же звезда, в сатанизме, это сам человек, который стоит в основе всего.

Сатанизм преподносится с *блей коз для тех, кому нужна вера, а она, как нестранно, нужна всем, Вера – хлеб для масс, но истина для знающих, так бы сказал Лоргар. «Зверь», это не люцифер, а сам Человек.

«Человечество всегда обращало взор к небу в поисках своего истинного пути.»

Как думаете откуда появился миф/клише о связи оккультизма, нацизма и Аненербе?

Оккультизм позволяет связать любого демона, т.е. заставить его повиноваться вам или просто изгнать, зная его имя (бог тоже демон). Это не сколько наука, сколько философия, которая подпитывается точными науками, если смотреть, что такое бог с точки зрения реальности и те методы, которые позволяют его связать. Именно по этим причинам - это все носит отрицательный характер, так как это дает мысли о истинной природе человека и совершенстве одного над другим. Бог создал всех равными перед ним, рабами. Нет, мы сами создаем себя и сами строем свое идеальное общество, которое отражает наши видовые интересы и продвигает их. И мы приходим к шовинизму, угнетению и порабощению, на которых строятся вся наша история, начиная осмысленно расцветать еще с времен Древнего Египта и делением Египтян на белых, т.е. себя, и на всех остальных, «рабов» - семитов, негров, ливийцев и т.д. (До нашего времени дошло очень много фресок с изображением белого египтянина, который угнетает данные расы/народности)

Ничего не напоминает? Ныне поклонения хаосу неделимому – нет (есть познания Богов, то, чем занимаются Несущие слово, являясь посланцами и наставниками), как и нет дп хаоса неделимого. Ты можешь поклоняться только одному богу. В 3тьей редакции, когда еще было поклонение богам, упоминалось о некой великой сущности - звере, и то, что он появится если все хаоситы постигнут истинную суть богов. А суть одна - сам человек, Человек и есть звезда хаоса, который способен управлять варпом, как материей. GW взяли базисную идеологию сатанизма и развили её полностью. А противостояние рабов императора и хсм'ов - это классическая война католиков и сатанистов.

Астартес Хаоса, в первую очередь, это Человек, с несгибаемой волей, способный «общаться» с Темными Богами на равных или же взаимодействовать, тот же пример - Абаддон, он не служит богам, боги строятся под ним и его волей, как и сам Варп перед умелыми Псайкерами, но и как Варп поглощает и уничтожает «плохих» псайкеров, не способных его полностью постичь и контролировать или же тех кто его «обожествляет», а следственно «служит».

«Перемены в эмпиреях и преображения плоти — это не стихийные, беспорядочные изменения. Варп, несмотря на все свое внешнее безумие, совершенствует своих избранников. Он творит их заново, вытягивая тайны их душ и воплощая это знание в смертной плоти.»

Темные Боги – это и есть мы, им нужны сильные личности для подпитки, чтобы банально существовать. Тогда бы Богам не были нужны Люди, ибо демоны – это полное отражение самих богов, они отражают одни эмоции и служение, через поклонение. Темным Богам интересны сильные и волевые личности, дающие им новые эмоции и следственно меняющие их. Живя в мире с богами, которые и есть мы сами – глупо их отрицать.

«Империум демонстрирует величайшее невежество, полагая, будто члены Девяти легионов и идущие за нами смертные являются неким непостижимым, чуждым видом. Познание варпа — это всего лишь познание. Никакие перемены, секреты и истины не в силах полностью переписать душу.»

Империум поэтому и слаб, так как на 1ое место, как и его рабы, ставит «веру» и «веры» же они и лишились на Кадии при временном закрытии Ока Ужаса. «Испарения веры в Императора», как и его демонов («легион проклятых», святая целестина и прочие демонические «святые»), позволило Черному Легиона нанести еще более сокрушительный и эффективный удар, так как по большей части Черному Легиону плевать на богов, они служат и воюют за себя, за идеалы Абаддона, но не богов.

«Я не человек. Я перестал быть человеком в одиннадцать лет, когда легион Тысячи Сынов забрал меня из семьи и преобразил в орудие войны. Однако я сотворен на человеческой основе. Мои эмоции — это человеческие эмоции, перестроенные и обостренные постчеловеческими чувствами. Мои сердца — это человеческие сердца, хотя и измененные. Они способны на бессмертную ненависть и бессмертное желание, которые выходят далеко за пределы возможностей нашего базового вида.

Когда мы, Девять легионов, размышляем о людях вне рамок их очевидного применения в качестве рабов, слуг и подчиненных, то видим родственные души. Не отягощенный пороками вид, а слабое, невежественное стадо, которое необходимо направлять властью правителя. Человечество — это то, из чего мы выросли. Не наш враг. Всего лишь предыдущий шаг на спирали эволюции.»

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Of Satanism, Chaos Gods and the Man [Personal thoughts]

Satanism doesn't encourage your personal slavery to someone else. The concept itself is quite curious due to being completely contradictory to Christianity (which used to be the main governmental institute earlier in history). And I remind that Satanism is still taboo, overgrown with myths and condemned in many, many ways since it's one of directions that make one «think for oneself» and unite for the sake of a great goal that destroys the current basics.

The point of Satanism is not about devotion or servitude but in one's own self-improvement and glory of Mankind, in this regard Satanism has a lot in common with classical German philosophy. «The Star» in Satanism is the Man themselves that stand in the center of everything.

Satanism is portrayed being about goatf&@king for those who need faith; which is, oddly enough, what everyone needs. Faith is bread for the masses but truth is for those who know, so would Lorgar say. «The Beast» is not Lucifer but the Man themselves.

«Humanity has always looked skywards for its true path.»

How do you think, where does the myth/cliché on the subject of ties between occultism, nazism and Ahnenerbe come from?

Occultism allows to bind any daemon, i.e. make it submit to you or simply banish by knowing their name (a god is a daemon too). It's not as much of a science as it is a philosophy which feeds on exact sciences if we are to look what is a god from the point of view of reality and the methods that allow to bind them. For these exact reasons it all carries such negative connotations since it provokes thoughts on the true nature of of man and supremacy of one over other. God has created us all equal before him, slaves. No, we make ourselves and we ourselves build our perfect society which reflects our species' interests and promotes them. And we come to chauvinism, oppression and enslavement, on which our whole history is built, starting to bloom in a meaningful way since the times of Ancient Egypt and separating Egyptians «the whites» (i.e. themselves) and everyone else aka «slaves» - Semites, blacks, Libyans etc. (Many frescos with the image with white Egyptian oppressing aforementioned races/ethnoses)

Does this remind you of anything? Nowadays there is no Chaos Undivided worship (there are knowledges of the Gods, which Word Bearers work with being heralds and mentors) just like there are no Undivided Daemon princes. You can only worship one god. In the 3d edition when worship of the Gods was still in place there was a mention of some great entity called «Beast» and and a claim that it will come into existence if all Chaos worshippers come to understand the true nature of the Gods. And the purpose is simple - the man themselves, the Man is a Chaos star which can control Warp like matter. GW took the basic ideology of Satanism and fully developed it. And the war between slaves of the Emperor and CSM is a classic warfare between Catholics and Satanists.

Chaos Astartes, first and foremost, is the Man, with unshakable will, capable of «communicating» with the Dark Gods like with equals or even interacting; good example would be Abaddon, who doesn't serve the Gods, the Gods take their shape under him and his will just like the Warp does under capable psykers, the same way the Warp devours and destroys «bad» psykers that cannot fully grasp and control it or those who «deifies», ergo «worships», it.

«The empyrean’s alterations and flesh-changes are not accidental, indiscriminate mutations. The warp, for all its seething madness, hones its chosen. It reshapes them, siphoning the secrets of their souls and writing those truths upon their mortal flesh.»

The Dark Gods are us, they need strong personalities to feed off, to simply exist. Otherwise the Gods wouldn't need Mankind since daemons are complete reflection of the Gods themselves, they reflect emotions alone and servitude through worship. The Dark Gods are interested in strong and volitional people that give them new emotions and changing them accordingly. It is foolish to deny the Gods that are us while living in peace with them.

«The Imperium betrays its greatest ignorance when it believes those of the Nine Legions, and the mortals who follow us, to be some unknowable, alien species. Knowledge of the warp is just that: knowledge. No change, no secret and no truth can rewrite every portion of one’s soul.»

The reason Imperium is so weak is that just like it's slaves, first and foremost it puts faith, and «faith» is what they've lost on Cadia during temporary closure of the Eye of Terror. «Fadeaway of the faith in the Emperor» along with his daemons («Legion of the Damned», «Saint Celestine» and other daemonic «Saints») allowed the Black Legion to land even more devastating and efficient blow, because generally the Black Legion could not care less about the Gods, they serve and fight for themselves, for the ideals of Abaddon, but not the Gods.

«I am not human. I have not been human since I was eleven years old, when the Thousand Sons Legion took me from my family and reshaped me into a weapon of war. But I am wrought from a human core. My emotions are human emotions, retuned and refined through post-human senses. My hearts are mortal hearts, yet changed; they are capable of immortal hate and immortal desire, far beyond those felt by our foundation species.

When we of the Nine Legions think of humankind, beyond their obvious use as slaves and thralls and subjects, we see kindred spirits. Not a species to be reviled, but a weak, ignorant herd that must be guided through sovereign rule. Humanity is a state of being that forms our roots. Not our enemy. Just a step beneath us on the evolutionary coil.»