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О сатанизме, Богах Хаоса и Человеке [Личные рассуждение] / Of Satanism, Dark Gods and the Man [Personal thoughts]
О сатанизме, Богах Хаоса и Человеке [Личные рассуждение]
Сатанизм не поощряет твое личное рабство по отношению к кому-то. Сама концепция крайне любопытная, так как являться полностью противоречащей христианству (которое ранее являлось основным гос. институтом). И я напоминаю, сатанизм до сих пор находится под запретом, обрастает мифами и его всячески порицают, так как это одно из направлений, которое заставляет «думать своей головой» и объединятся ради великой цели, которая рушит текущие основы.
Смысл сатанизма не в отдаче или служении, а в своем собственном саморазвитии и величие Человеческого рода, в этом плане сатанизм очень роднится к классической немецкой философии. Та же звезда, в сатанизме, это сам человек, который стоит в основе всего.
Сатанизм преподносится с *блей коз для тех, кому нужна вера, а она, как нестранно, нужна всем, Вера – хлеб для масс, но истина для знающих, так бы сказал Лоргар. «Зверь», это не люцифер, а сам Человек.
«Человечество всегда обращало взор к небу в поисках своего истинного пути.»
Как думаете откуда появился миф/клише о связи оккультизма, нацизма и Аненербе?
Оккультизм позволяет связать любого демона, т.е. заставить его повиноваться вам или просто изгнать, зная его имя (бог тоже демон). Это не сколько наука, сколько философия, которая подпитывается точными науками, если смотреть, что такое бог с точки зрения реальности и те методы, которые позволяют его связать. Именно по этим причинам - это все носит отрицательный характер, так как это дает мысли о истинной природе человека и совершенстве одного над другим. Бог создал всех равными перед ним, рабами. Нет, мы сами создаем себя и сами строем свое идеальное общество, которое отражает наши видовые интересы и продвигает их. И мы приходим к шовинизму, угнетению и порабощению, на которых строятся вся наша история, начиная осмысленно расцветать еще с времен Древнего Египта и делением Египтян на белых, т.е. себя, и на всех остальных, «рабов» - семитов, негров, ливийцев и т.д. (До нашего времени дошло очень много фресок с изображением белого египтянина, который угнетает данные расы/народности)
Ничего не напоминает? Ныне поклонения хаосу неделимому – нет (есть познания Богов, то, чем занимаются Несущие слово, являясь посланцами и наставниками), как и нет дп хаоса неделимого. Ты можешь поклоняться только одному богу. В 3тьей редакции, когда еще было поклонение богам, упоминалось о некой великой сущности - звере, и то, что он появится если все хаоситы постигнут истинную суть богов. А суть одна - сам человек, Человек и есть звезда хаоса, который способен управлять варпом, как материей. GW взяли базисную идеологию сатанизма и развили её полностью. А противостояние рабов императора и хсм'ов - это классическая война католиков и сатанистов.
Астартес Хаоса, в первую очередь, это Человек, с несгибаемой волей, способный «общаться» с Темными Богами на равных или же взаимодействовать, тот же пример - Абаддон, он не служит богам, боги строятся под ним и его волей, как и сам Варп перед умелыми Псайкерами, но и как Варп поглощает и уничтожает «плохих» псайкеров, не способных его полностью постичь и контролировать или же тех кто его «обожествляет», а следственно «служит».
«Перемены в эмпиреях и преображения плоти — это не стихийные, беспорядочные изменения. Варп, несмотря на все свое внешнее безумие, совершенствует своих избранников. Он творит их заново, вытягивая тайны их душ и воплощая это знание в смертной плоти.»
Темные Боги – это и есть мы, им нужны сильные личности для подпитки, чтобы банально существовать. Тогда бы Богам не были нужны Люди, ибо демоны – это полное отражение самих богов, они отражают одни эмоции и служение, через поклонение. Темным Богам интересны сильные и волевые личности, дающие им новые эмоции и следственно меняющие их. Живя в мире с богами, которые и есть мы сами – глупо их отрицать.
«Империум демонстрирует величайшее невежество, полагая, будто члены Девяти легионов и идущие за нами смертные являются неким непостижимым, чуждым видом. Познание варпа — это всего лишь познание. Никакие перемены, секреты и истины не в силах полностью переписать душу.»
Империум поэтому и слаб, так как на 1ое место, как и его рабы, ставит «веру» и «веры» же они и лишились на Кадии при временном закрытии Ока Ужаса. «Испарения веры в Императора», как и его демонов («легион проклятых», святая целестина и прочие демонические «святые»), позволило Черному Легиона нанести еще более сокрушительный и эффективный удар, так как по большей части Черному Легиону плевать на богов, они служат и воюют за себя, за идеалы Абаддона, но не богов.
«Я не человек. Я перестал быть человеком в одиннадцать лет, когда легион Тысячи Сынов забрал меня из семьи и преобразил в орудие войны. Однако я сотворен на человеческой основе. Мои эмоции — это человеческие эмоции, перестроенные и обостренные постчеловеческими чувствами. Мои сердца — это человеческие сердца, хотя и измененные. Они способны на бессмертную ненависть и бессмертное желание, которые выходят далеко за пределы возможностей нашего базового вида.
Когда мы, Девять легионов, размышляем о людях вне рамок их очевидного применения в качестве рабов, слуг и подчиненных, то видим родственные души. Не отягощенный пороками вид, а слабое, невежественное стадо, которое необходимо направлять властью правителя. Человечество — это то, из чего мы выросли. Не наш враг. Всего лишь предыдущий шаг на спирали эволюции.»
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Of Satanism, Chaos Gods and the Man [Personal thoughts]
Satanism doesn't encourage your personal slavery to someone else. The concept itself is quite curious due to being completely contradictory to Christianity (which used to be the main governmental institute earlier in history). And I remind that Satanism is still taboo, overgrown with myths and condemned in many, many ways since it's one of directions that make one «think for oneself» and unite for the sake of a great goal that destroys the current basics.
The point of Satanism is not about devotion or servitude but in one's own self-improvement and glory of Mankind, in this regard Satanism has a lot in common with classical German philosophy. «The Star» in Satanism is the Man themselves that stand in the center of everything.
Satanism is portrayed being about goatf&@king for those who need faith; which is, oddly enough, what everyone needs. Faith is bread for the masses but truth is for those who know, so would Lorgar say. «The Beast» is not Lucifer but the Man themselves.
«Humanity has always looked skywards for its true path.»
How do you think, where does the myth/cliché on the subject of ties between occultism, nazism and Ahnenerbe come from?
Occultism allows to bind any daemon, i.e. make it submit to you or simply banish by knowing their name (a god is a daemon too). It's not as much of a science as it is a philosophy which feeds on exact sciences if we are to look what is a god from the point of view of reality and the methods that allow to bind them. For these exact reasons it all carries such negative connotations since it provokes thoughts on the true nature of of man and supremacy of one over other. God has created us all equal before him, slaves. No, we make ourselves and we ourselves build our perfect society which reflects our species' interests and promotes them. And we come to chauvinism, oppression and enslavement, on which our whole history is built, starting to bloom in a meaningful way since the times of Ancient Egypt and separating Egyptians «the whites» (i.e. themselves) and everyone else aka «slaves» - Semites, blacks, Libyans etc. (Many frescos with the image with white Egyptian oppressing aforementioned races/ethnoses)
Does this remind you of anything? Nowadays there is no Chaos Undivided worship (there are knowledges of the Gods, which Word Bearers work with being heralds and mentors) just like there are no Undivided Daemon princes. You can only worship one god. In the 3d edition when worship of the Gods was still in place there was a mention of some great entity called «Beast» and and a claim that it will come into existence if all Chaos worshippers come to understand the true nature of the Gods. And the purpose is simple - the man themselves, the Man is a Chaos star which can control Warp like matter. GW took the basic ideology of Satanism and fully developed it. And the war between slaves of the Emperor and CSM is a classic warfare between Catholics and Satanists.
Chaos Astartes, first and foremost, is the Man, with unshakable will, capable of «communicating» with the Dark Gods like with equals or even interacting; good example would be Abaddon, who doesn't serve the Gods, the Gods take their shape under him and his will just like the Warp does under capable psykers, the same way the Warp devours and destroys «bad» psykers that cannot fully grasp and control it or those who «deifies», ergo «worships», it.
«The empyrean’s alterations and flesh-changes are not accidental, indiscriminate mutations. The warp, for all its seething madness, hones its chosen. It reshapes them, siphoning the secrets of their souls and writing those truths upon their mortal flesh.»
The Dark Gods are us, they need strong personalities to feed off, to simply exist. Otherwise the Gods wouldn't need Mankind since daemons are complete reflection of the Gods themselves, they reflect emotions alone and servitude through worship. The Dark Gods are interested in strong and volitional people that give them new emotions and changing them accordingly. It is foolish to deny the Gods that are us while living in peace with them.
«The Imperium betrays its greatest ignorance when it believes those of the Nine Legions, and the mortals who follow us, to be some unknowable, alien species. Knowledge of the warp is just that: knowledge. No change, no secret and no truth can rewrite every portion of one’s soul.»
The reason Imperium is so weak is that just like it's slaves, first and foremost it puts faith, and «faith» is what they've lost on Cadia during temporary closure of the Eye of Terror. «Fadeaway of the faith in the Emperor» along with his daemons («Legion of the Damned», «Saint Celestine» and other daemonic «Saints») allowed the Black Legion to land even more devastating and efficient blow, because generally the Black Legion could not care less about the Gods, they serve and fight for themselves, for the ideals of Abaddon, but not the Gods.
«I am not human. I have not been human since I was eleven years old, when the Thousand Sons Legion took me from my family and reshaped me into a weapon of war. But I am wrought from a human core. My emotions are human emotions, retuned and refined through post-human senses. My hearts are mortal hearts, yet changed; they are capable of immortal hate and immortal desire, far beyond those felt by our foundation species.
When we of the Nine Legions think of humankind, beyond their obvious use as slaves and thralls and subjects, we see kindred spirits. Not a species to be reviled, but a weak, ignorant herd that must be guided through sovereign rule. Humanity is a state of being that forms our roots. Not our enemy. Just a step beneath us on the evolutionary coil.»
wh слухи Warhammer 40000 фэндомы
- 26th July Dark Vengance is coming back. All same old models are back plus an Aspiring Champion. As you can predict, new rulebook is there - soft cover.
- Realm of Battle: Sector Imperialis - new 40k only plastic table, similar to the existing one which can be used for both systems.
- Imperialis Basing Kit – 25 base clipons to match the new table.
- Badrukk’s Flash Gitz –1x Kaptin Badrukk, 10x Flash Gitz, 6x Ammo Grots). Four of the six grots are brand new models.
По Кровавым Ангелам:
- Mephiston: Lord of War.
- Blood Angels: Gain access to the new Codex SM flyers, but not the tanks.
Minis:
- New "Sanguinary" unit in Terminator armor
- Clam pack plastic Sanguinary Priest
- New Wheeled vehicle
- "Classic Character" gets a resculpt (contrary chatter split between Mephiston/Tycho)
Волки:
- Wolf Lord in Terminator Armor / Lorgan Grimnar
- Wolf Lord/Ragnar Blackmane
- Wolf Priest/Ulrik
- Iron Priest with Thralls Box
- Rune Warriors with Rune Priest/Wolf Guard Box
новая редакция изменения много букв гв - такое гв 7th edition Warhammer 40000 фэндомы
Line of Sight is now traced from one model's body to another model's- no more drawing from the eyes/head. Sort of.
“Start of the turn” is explicitly before the Movement phase occurs; “end of turn” is explicitly after the Assault phase.
Coherency, as several others have noted, is now 6″ vertically at all times (not just in ruins.)
If you generate all your powers from one discipline you get the Primaris automatically, but if you gain a power later from another discipline, you'll lose that Primaris. Chaos Marines/Daemons always know the primaris from their god's discipline.
Force is not a discipline and doesn't count for psychic focus, etc. It is, however, a Blessing and can be negated, etc, as normal.
Warp Charge counts all units on the table, including those in transports. The psychic phase ends immediately if the active player runs out of warp charge.
You can only ever manifest psychic powers on your own turn. Kinda breaks a bunch of the Blood Angels/Grey Knights powers?
Psyker units can only attempt to manifest a particular power once. Text is a little ambiguous what this means, though; if there are multiple psyker models within a unit (that can each manifest separately, as opposed to a Brotherhood) maybe they can each do their own thing? If unit = unit in the normal sense, though, that implies that powers are “shared” amongst a unit, so you could choose to have a unit of Farseer + Warlocks manifest one of the Farseer's powers through a Warlock. I'm thinking that's not how it works.
Deny the Witch is on 6s unless you have a bonus. Shutting down powers is really, really hard. Casting them is harder too, though.
Can't cast anything but Witchfires out of a transport.
Perils only happens on natural double (or more) sixes. Currently there's no way to get modifiers, but could eventually be relevant.
Perils is more dangerous than before, at least by a bit. Still causes a wound most of the time (but on 5/6 you can make a Ld test to dodge it.) 4+ on the table ONLY causes a wound, so not all that dangerous. 1/2 are potentially pretty bad, with 2 actually being the worst- no roll to avoid it, and for low-Mastery psykers it can render them useless for the remainder of the game.
Psychic Pilot explicitly gives a bonus to Deny rolls.
Psychic Hood is 12″ range now, otherwise does the same thing.
Blessings don't stack unless specifically stated.
Conjurations bring the unit in via Deep Strike, so no movement/assault. Mishapping lets you place them anywhere you want on the subsequent turn, though. The conjured unit generates powers/abilities immediately as appropriate, but can't cast conjurations of its own that turn. They're scoring. Conjured Daemons can always take an Icon/Insturment/Champion for free if you have the appropriate model available.
Powers last from one psychic phase to another, unless otherwise noted, so Blessings will never help you on your first movement phase. Interesting.
Maledictions don't have the same “never culmulative” text that Blessings do, but are otherwise worded similarly (which implies they probably don't stack.) Still can't go below 1 in anything.
You can cast as many Witchfires as you want and still shoot, and can target anything you want.
Beams don't reduce in strength anymore for multiple models? Pretty sure that was a thing previously.
Focused Witchfires get to choose their target if you roll more successes than you needed to cast the power. This is huge, as it means that the previously-unreliable targeting aspect of them is now actually quite accurate. They otherwise hit the nearest model, which is still useful.
Novas hit FMCs/flyers.
Shooting is resolved one weapon at a time now, but you can still only fire one gun unless otherwise noted. Interestingly, different fire modes are counted as different weapons for this purpose. The limitation on firing one gun is no longer specific to the shooting phase.
Snap Shots are always BS1, unless specifically stated otherwise or modified by a rule that states otherwise.
If models are equidistant from the shooter, the owner chooses which to remove.
You can't allocate wounds to models out of LOS. [черт] you, blast weapons, you have to follow the rules.
Since weapons are resolved one at a time, it's possible to put your shorter-ranged guns out of range. Pick your order carefully.
Models that Go to ground can't fire overwatch. That's a pretty big deal.
Cover is always 5+ unless specified otherwise.
Ordnance weapons can never fire Snap Shots. Nonvehicle models that shoot an Ordnance weapon can't charge or fire other guns.
FMCs can theoretically drop bombs now. Huh.
Primary weapons with Armorbane roll 3d6 and pick the two highest. Nice little fix there.
You're allowed to charge things you can't hurt, explicitly so.
Charging through terrain is -2″. This can cause you to fail a 1″ charge.
Pile in during assaults is slightly different. Functionally pretty similar, though.
Monstrous Creatures can never Go to Ground.
FMCs that Deep Strike are always considered to be Swooping.
Grounded tests are only on unsaved wounds, and are at the end of the phase. You can't charge if you went into Glide mode on your own turn, but you can if forced by a Grounding test.
Vehicles are allowed to make Snap Shots with ordnance weapons.
When Immobilized, flyers crash on a 1/2 and otherwise count it as Stunned.
Exploding vehicles no longer leave craters. Wrecked vehicles are not dangerous terrain (though they're still difficult.)
Vehicles are allowed cover saves against weapons that inflict damage results, but don't roll on the damage table- specifically including Graviton weapons.
Stationary vehicles are still treated as WS1, though Immobilized ones are not.
If a vehicle suffers a damage result that doesn't kill it, embarked units have to make a Ld test at the end of the phase or be only able to fire snap shots.
Damage from vehicle explosions on the inside is allocated randomly. [черт]ing random allocation.
If a transport is destroyed by a shooting attack, ANY unit that shot the transport is allowed to charge the disembarked squad.
Moving Flat Out while zooming gives you 12″-24″ of distance.
You can't disembark from a chariot, period. Coming back to life if you were mounted on a chariot brings back your chariot with 1HP. When a Chariot is shot at, the owner gets to choose whether the wounds hit the chariot itself or the embarked model (except for blasts/templates, which always hit the vehicle.) Skimmer chariots don't need to take Dangerous tests for charging, and chariots only take a glancing hit from dangerous tests. Chariots (or more specifically their riders) fight like infantry models and the chariot can sweep, pile in, etc, as normal. When fighting against a chariot, you have to resolve all of your attacks against either the rider or the vehicle- you can't split them. You use the WS of the rider to hit it, and grenades can only be used on the vehicle. Hits against the vehicle are always resolved on front armor in CC.
Walkers no longer get a free pivot in the shooting phase. They do have the Hammer of Wrath rule, though.
Ramming does a base damage equal to half the armor facing of the vehicle, +1 for being a tank, +2 fr being heavy/superheavy- speed no longer matters (though you must go as fast as possible.)
Dozer Blades add +1 to your effective armor value when ramming.
Wounds from a challenge spill over into the unit, and wounds from outside the challenge can spill “into” the challenge (but only after all other models have been killed.)
Area terrain as a thing is gone, but many of its functions still exist. For example, ruins provide a 4+ cover save regardless of obscurement.
Craters are 6+ cover, regardless of obscurement, and give +2 when going to ground.
A model that fires a Gun emplacement can't fire any other weapons.
Buildings have HP now. 3/4/5 for small/medium/large. Jump and jet pack infantry can get into buildings. Buildings are explicitly treated like vehicles except where noted otherwise. Units on the battlements of a building that Collapses don't have to get off; those on a Detonating building get a free 6″ move to place themselves legally.
Gun Emplacements placed on buildings count only as Emplaced Weapons and can't be destroyed by shooting at them directly.
Unbound armies are stupid. really, really stupid. They're allowed to take Formations (and gain their benefits normally) if they want.
Whatever detachment contains your Warlord is your primary detachment, but otherwise it can be any of them. In an Unbound army, all models from the same faction as your Warlord benefit from their trait.
You can take any number of detachments in an army, including Allied detachments. “Combined Arms Detachment” is the general name for the old FoC chart, which includes one fortification and one Lord of War. A CAD can reroll its warlord trait and benefits from Objective Secured; allied detachments get Objective Secured, in both cases for Troop models only. Note this applies to dedicated transports for troops.
Warlords can be non-character models, but if they are, they do not get a warlord trait.
The warlord tables are mostly the same, but slightly cleaned up. Strategic is really, really good now.
Unbound armies still need to follow the rules for differing ally relationships. Battle brothers can embark on each others' transports now. Desperate Allies don't cause planes to crash anymore, but are scoring. Come the Apocalypse are like Desperate, but can't be deployed within 12″ to start.
Fortifications are set up with the rest of the army during deployment.
Winner of the roll-off picks whether to deploy first or second, and then both players do so. Whoever deployed first then chooses whether to take the first or second turn. This… is a pretty big change.
Conceding is now actually in the rules, and results in a crushing victory for the continuing player.
Only scoring units can claim Linebreaker. If both players kill a unit at the same time, they both get First blood.
The roll-off to place objectives is done before choosing table sides or deployment types (except in Emperor's Will) and is separate from the roll-off to pick sides, etc. Objectives can be on top of, but not inside of, buildings.
Swooping/zooming units don't score. Nonscoring units can't contest objectives.
Sabotaged objectives now cause d6 hits to units in 3″, rather than the large blast marker. Grav Wave Generator now subtracts two from charge rolls, and is cumulative with terrain.
Night Fighting is ignored if neither player wants to use it. It simply gives the Stealth rule to all units.
There is no limit to the number of units you can place in reserve, though if you have no models on the table you will still lose at the end of a game turn. Units from reserve can manifest psychic powers as they please.
You can't roll the same Tactical Objective more than once during a game. Maelstrom of War missions are optional, and only they use the Tactical Objectives. You generate tactical Objectives at the beginning of your turn, depending on the mission.
Scouring and Big Guns still give VP for killing the requisite unit types, but no longer have anything else special about that type.
The Relic is now scored like any other objective and can only be passed once per turn. Vehicles can never pick up the Relic.
The Maelstrom missions are… interesting. Above and beyond the other stuff here, they're gonna get a post all their own.
ATSKNF no longer gives the free 3″ move for regrouping.
Blind can only cause one test per phase.
Barrage weapons can only fire at targets inside their minimum range by firing directly.
Destroyer weapons always cause no effect on a result of '1′. 2-5 cause d3 damage (HP or wounds) and allow cover/invulnerable save as usual. 6 is the same as before and no saves of any kind can be taken, although special rules other than FNP can still be taken as normal. Destroyer weapons count as S10 for purposes of Instant Death (sorry, harpy/DP, no more dodging that bullet.)
Graviton weapons do nothing to buildings.
Hammer of Wrath is resolved against the armor facing you hit.
ICs can never join a unit that contains a monstrous creature of vehicle. They are, however, allowed to join units that consist of a single model.
Infiltrators and Scouts can never charge on their first turn, even if you went second.
Poisoned weapons only grant a reroll on wounds if your Strength is HIGHER than the toughness of the model you are wounding.
Precision Shots are only on sixes.
Rampage doesn't work when multicharging.
Skyfire no longer allows full-BS shots at ground targets if you have the Interceptor rule.
Smash Attack is now only a single attack, not half your normal number.
Sniper weapons are no longer Rending against vehicles and merely count as S4.
Strikedown doesn't lower the initiative values of affected models anymore.
Supersonic doesn't prevent you from entering Hover mode.
You can use Grenades against Gun Emplacements.
Defensive grenades can be throw as S1 Blind Blast weapons. They don't give Stealth at close range.
Like the missions, the psychic powers deserve an article all their own. (Also, we need to find out who can actually use what tables before they mean much- remember, in 6E a lot of models from a faction didn't have access to all of that faction's psychic disciplines.)
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